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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 09:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John - 
If there is an incorrect entry, then the cool thing about a wiki is that you can make the change. 
I have to say that I think you're being a bit alarmist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John -<br />
If there is an incorrect entry, then the cool thing about a wiki is that you can make the change.<br />
I have to say that I think you&#8217;re being a bit alarmist.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by John Frits</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Frits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, gramatical error, this is what I meant:
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT use Wikipedia! They are not only bias, but HORRIBLY wrong! They claim that sources about a company from the company itself are not valid, yet they also claim that information directly from a company IS valid! See, if they can’t even be consistent themselves, HOW ARE YOU SURE THEY CAN EVER BE ACCURATE ON ANYTHING ELSE???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, gramatical error, this is what I meant:<br />
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT use Wikipedia! They are not only bias, but HORRIBLY wrong! They claim that sources about a company from the company itself are not valid, yet they also claim that information directly from a company IS valid! See, if they can’t even be consistent themselves, HOW ARE YOU SURE THEY CAN EVER BE ACCURATE ON ANYTHING ELSE???</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by John Frits</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Frits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT use Wikipedia! They are not only bias, but HORRIBLY wrong! They claim that sources from a company from the company itself are not valid, yet they also claim that information directly from a company IS valid! See, if they can't even be consistent themselves, HOW ARE YOU SURE THEY CAN EVER BE ACCURATE ON ANYTHING ELSE???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT use Wikipedia! They are not only bias, but HORRIBLY wrong! They claim that sources from a company from the company itself are not valid, yet they also claim that information directly from a company IS valid! See, if they can&#8217;t even be consistent themselves, HOW ARE YOU SURE THEY CAN EVER BE ACCURATE ON ANYTHING ELSE???</p>
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		<title>Comment on NY Times article: brain gets bigger with exercise by Cognitive Enhancement &#171; Pawnstorm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cognitive Enhancement &#171; Pawnstorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Firewalling knowledge workers by mikeberta</title>
		<link>http://learnlearnlearn.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/firewalling-knowledge-workers/#comment-3393</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeberta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rory,

I've been in that position several times in my career and the conversations just don't get easier. At one point a supervisor, in a training department, noted my performance evaluation with "seems to be using the Internet during work hours".

Yikes!

This note, and several other comments, came at times when I was boundary spanning to gain knowledge for the betterment of the company, my own instruction, and the industry. It shows the lack of vision and perception people have of true professionals.

Your participation in CoP's is vital to maintaining your motivation, drive, and performance. External CoP's provide the most benefit, as internal ones are often so insetutious that they provide little gain over the status quo.

It wasn't until I befriended a senior IT leader that my problems were corrected. His own participation beyond the firewall far outweighed anything I was doing and his advocacy ultimately helped my defense of being a true professional.

Since then, I find information to bring to my groups often and make a note of saying, "I got this from __________". It helps people to understand the value of being on the edges of the organization.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rory,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in that position several times in my career and the conversations just don&#8217;t get easier. At one point a supervisor, in a training department, noted my performance evaluation with &#8220;seems to be using the Internet during work hours&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yikes!</p>
<p>This note, and several other comments, came at times when I was boundary spanning to gain knowledge for the betterment of the company, my own instruction, and the industry. It shows the lack of vision and perception people have of true professionals.</p>
<p>Your participation in CoP&#8217;s is vital to maintaining your motivation, drive, and performance. External CoP&#8217;s provide the most benefit, as internal ones are often so insetutious that they provide little gain over the status quo.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until I befriended a senior IT leader that my problems were corrected. His own participation beyond the firewall far outweighed anything I was doing and his advocacy ultimately helped my defense of being a true professional.</p>
<p>Since then, I find information to bring to my groups often and make a note of saying, &#8220;I got this from __________&#8221;. It helps people to understand the value of being on the edges of the organization.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>Comment on In which I tick off a consultant - (Knowledge Transfer) by Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nkilkenny - Hi there! thanks for commenting.
How are you, by the way?

On the one hand I think there was a territorial issue here on the part of the consultant. 

But I think the biggest problem was that this organization's knowledge management system, which they were promoting its use and which is just dressed up as a knowledge transfer system, just doesn't accommodate the idea of collecting contexts which provide real meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nkilkenny - Hi there! thanks for commenting.<br />
How are you, by the way?</p>
<p>On the one hand I think there was a territorial issue here on the part of the consultant. </p>
<p>But I think the biggest problem was that this organization&#8217;s knowledge management system, which they were promoting its use and which is just dressed up as a knowledge transfer system, just doesn&#8217;t accommodate the idea of collecting contexts which provide real meaning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In which I tick off a consultant - (Knowledge Transfer) by The offending section (that ticked off the consultant) &#171; Learn-Learn-Learn</title>
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		<dc:creator>The offending section (that ticked off the consultant) &#171; Learn-Learn-Learn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on In which I tick off a consultant - (Knowledge Transfer) by nkilkenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>nkilkenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, I'm reading too much into this, but that guy sounds like sort of a dunkoff.  Can they explain their rationale? That's too bad. I'd be mad too. Ugh sounds like the consultant has oversimplified things... maybe to make sure it looks like what they're doing is 'streamlined.' Can he provide an introduction and the let them know that the additional KT information is elsewhere? Has he taken into account that he can't possibly provide all tribal knowledge from the original users?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, I&#8217;m reading too much into this, but that guy sounds like sort of a dunkoff.  Can they explain their rationale? That&#8217;s too bad. I&#8217;d be mad too. Ugh sounds like the consultant has oversimplified things&#8230; maybe to make sure it looks like what they&#8217;re doing is &#8217;streamlined.&#8217; Can he provide an introduction and the let them know that the additional KT information is elsewhere? Has he taken into account that he can&#8217;t possibly provide all tribal knowledge from the original users?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by Loon Theory&#8217;s View on Wikipedia &#171; Loon Theory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loon Theory&#8217;s View on Wikipedia &#171; Loon Theory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Bubble 1.1 by Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was fun!</description>
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		<title>Comment on links for 2008-03-12 by Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Annette - Wow! I've not heard anyone use "Lurch" since ... well ... the early days at CUA. 
Thanks for that stroll down amnesia lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Annette - Wow! I&#8217;ve not heard anyone use &#8220;Lurch&#8221; since &#8230; well &#8230; the early days at CUA.<br />
Thanks for that stroll down amnesia lane.</p>
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		<title>Comment on links for 2008-03-12 by Annette (Brittnacher) Hass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annette (Brittnacher) Hass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rory,

So here I am, just innocently Googling something for my oldest on CUA's policies for admitting homeschoolers - and I come across your site!  Good stuff, Lurch!

Annette</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rory,</p>
<p>So here I am, just innocently Googling something for my oldest on CUA&#8217;s policies for admitting homeschoolers - and I come across your site!  Good stuff, Lurch!</p>
<p>Annette</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sweet! Online genealogy database is free for me now - because I live in New Jersey by Paget &#38; Taylor Family Tree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paget &#38; Taylor Family Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Sweet! Online genealogy database is free for me now - because I &#8230;  By Rory  Although I&#8217;m quite interested in genealogy and family history - have been for quite some time; and made some rather interesting discoveries about my family - my free time to research comes in fits and starts. There are times when I just &#8230;   Learn-Learn-Learn - http://learnlearnlearn.wordpress.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Sweet! Online genealogy database is free for me now - because I &#8230;  By Rory  Although I&rsquo;m quite interested in genealogy and family history - have been for quite some time; and made some rather interesting discoveries about my family - my free time to research comes in fits and starts. There are times when I just &#8230;   Learn-Learn-Learn - <a href="http://learnlearnlearn.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://learnlearnlearn.wordpress.com</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi shan - I think there is a prevailing thought that Wikipedia is inaccurate; however, JB's comment above pokes a hole in that myth ... when comparing the accuracy to Encyclopedia Britannica.  
There might be an element of the unknown, which could translate into some aspect of fear, on the part of a teacher.  But I don't think that that's the entire story for most folks. 

It boils down to (in my own humble opinion) how to use and being comfortable in using any tool - whether it is Wikipedia or any other platform/tool that involves an active body of contributors.  If a teacher is not sure or nor comfortable using these tools, then it is likely she/he will rule against its use in class or for reports or projects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi shan - I think there is a prevailing thought that Wikipedia is inaccurate; however, JB&#8217;s comment above pokes a hole in that myth &#8230; when comparing the accuracy to Encyclopedia Britannica.<br />
There might be an element of the unknown, which could translate into some aspect of fear, on the part of a teacher.  But I don&#8217;t think that that&#8217;s the entire story for most folks. </p>
<p>It boils down to (in my own humble opinion) how to use and being comfortable in using any tool - whether it is Wikipedia or any other platform/tool that involves an active body of contributors.  If a teacher is not sure or nor comfortable using these tools, then it is likely she/he will rule against its use in class or for reports or projects.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by shan829</title>
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		<dc:creator>shan829</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How insightful! This was actually the first time that I have heard of a teacher not allowing his/her students to use Wikipedia. The only thing that I did hear about Wikipedia was that it was not completely accurate. Are there any other reasons as to why a teacher would not allow their students to use that site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How insightful! This was actually the first time that I have heard of a teacher not allowing his/her students to use Wikipedia. The only thing that I did hear about Wikipedia was that it was not completely accurate. Are there any other reasons as to why a teacher would not allow their students to use that site?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB - Thanks for that data. Good to have "in the back pocket" should some absolutist strike again. 
Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB - Thanks for that data. Good to have &#8220;in the back pocket&#8221; should some absolutist strike again.<br />
Regards</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen the articles regarding Wikipedia's accuracy?  Nature News had this information:

Encyclopedia Britannica as an example of an accurate reference. 

For its study, Nature chose articles from both sites in a wide range of topics and sent them to what it called "relevant" field experts for peer review. The experts then compared the competing articles--one from each site on a given topic--side by side, but were not told which article came from which site. Nature got back 42 usable reviews from its field of experts. 

In the end, the journal found just eight serious errors, such as general misunderstandings of vital concepts, in the articles. Of those, four came from each site. They did, however, discover a series of factual errors, omissions or misleading statements. All told, Wikipedia had 162 such problems, while Britannica had 123. 

That averages out to 2.92 mistakes per article for Britannica and 3.86 for Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the articles regarding Wikipedia&#8217;s accuracy?  Nature News had this information:</p>
<p>Encyclopedia Britannica as an example of an accurate reference. </p>
<p>For its study, Nature chose articles from both sites in a wide range of topics and sent them to what it called &#8220;relevant&#8221; field experts for peer review. The experts then compared the competing articles&#8211;one from each site on a given topic&#8211;side by side, but were not told which article came from which site. Nature got back 42 usable reviews from its field of experts. </p>
<p>In the end, the journal found just eight serious errors, such as general misunderstandings of vital concepts, in the articles. Of those, four came from each site. They did, however, discover a series of factual errors, omissions or misleading statements. All told, Wikipedia had 162 such problems, while Britannica had 123. </p>
<p>That averages out to 2.92 mistakes per article for Britannica and 3.86 for Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thou Shalt Not Use Wikipedia by Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - getting one's bearing when beginning research for any subject is always a good way to go. I wonder how much of the fear you mention is due to a myth that Wikipedia is unreliable as opposed to some other encyclopedia. It is completely false - but might still be stuck in some teachers' minds. 

Nihiltres - thanks for your thoughts (way cool that you're a Wikipedia contributor!). I think you're spot on about teaching HOW to use Wikipedia well. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike - getting one&#8217;s bearing when beginning research for any subject is always a good way to go. I wonder how much of the fear you mention is due to a myth that Wikipedia is unreliable as opposed to some other encyclopedia. It is completely false - but might still be stuck in some teachers&#8217; minds. </p>
<p>Nihiltres - thanks for your thoughts (way cool that you&#8217;re a Wikipedia contributor!). I think you&#8217;re spot on about teaching HOW to use Wikipedia well. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Training as an investment - Yeah right - Gotta be kidding by Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike - thanks for the comments and your thoughts ... ROL - I like that (and admittedly haven't heard this until now). It seems pretty much in line with a very good analysis that seeks to focus on what currently is and what the desired "should" be... and then figure out how best to get to that 'should.' 

And I would agree that training is not always the best way; although it does seem to be the one most advocated for by management.  A key challenge however is being given the necessary time to do a really good analysis up front. (But there's nothing from stopping us doing things concurrently - where we have continue to do an analysis in more detail as needed while beginning a design).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike - thanks for the comments and your thoughts &#8230; ROL - I like that (and admittedly haven&#8217;t heard this until now). It seems pretty much in line with a very good analysis that seeks to focus on what currently is and what the desired &#8220;should&#8221; be&#8230; and then figure out how best to get to that &#8217;should.&#8217; </p>
<p>And I would agree that training is not always the best way; although it does seem to be the one most advocated for by management.  A key challenge however is being given the necessary time to do a really good analysis up front. (But there&#8217;s nothing from stopping us doing things concurrently - where we have continue to do an analysis in more detail as needed while beginning a design).</p>
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		<dc:creator>Nihiltres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Wikipedia contributor, it always frustrates me when teachers take an absolutist stand against Wikipedia. A look at Wikipedia's featured articles - the ones that have been extensively reviewed and checked-over, should reveal that often, what's there is of high quality. The trick is, often there are articles which aren't great, and I feel entirely comfortable with that - Wikipedia isn't complete, not by a long shot - and more in terms of improving what we have than endlessly adding new articles. What teachers should do is teach how to use Wikipedia well - for high-school topics and quick reviews, it's probably perfectly fine to just grab a few of the sources from a Wikipedia article, which are likely to be good resources summarized through the article. For more advanced topics and courses, perhaps one might be justified in forcing a student to really research the topic (i.e., in a library or via professional databases).
That teachers say "NO WIKIPEDIA" rather than "Well, you can use Wikipedia, but not directly - it's an encyclopedia - and definitely carefully" is really the problem. I applaud all those teachers who have made successful Wikipedia-student interactions, such as those at .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Wikipedia contributor, it always frustrates me when teachers take an absolutist stand against Wikipedia. A look at Wikipedia&#8217;s featured articles - the ones that have been extensively reviewed and checked-over, should reveal that often, what&#8217;s there is of high quality. The trick is, often there are articles which aren&#8217;t great, and I feel entirely comfortable with that - Wikipedia isn&#8217;t complete, not by a long shot - and more in terms of improving what we have than endlessly adding new articles. What teachers should do is teach how to use Wikipedia well - for high-school topics and quick reviews, it&#8217;s probably perfectly fine to just grab a few of the sources from a Wikipedia article, which are likely to be good resources summarized through the article. For more advanced topics and courses, perhaps one might be justified in forcing a student to really research the topic (i.e., in a library or via professional databases).<br />
That teachers say &#8220;NO WIKIPEDIA&#8221; rather than &#8220;Well, you can use Wikipedia, but not directly - it&#8217;s an encyclopedia - and definitely carefully&#8221; is really the problem. I applaud all those teachers who have made successful Wikipedia-student interactions, such as those at .</p>
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